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Peter Hodges's avatar

Phew, so much to iron out here. Maybe first that Greene was talking about Ned Alleyn, not Shaxper, when he warned Marlowe about the Upstart Crow, the same description he gave to Alleyn in Francesco's Fortunes. So, No Shaxper to write for Lady Pembroke. He does not appear until the Grey's Inn revels in early 1594, and then as stage manager.It was Marlowe who wrote the majority of the plays for Pembroke's Men, including The Contention (Henry VI 2), The True Tragedy (Henry VI 3), and The Taming of The Shrew, among others. The links between Hero and Leander, the "Procreation Sonnets" and Venus and Adonis are well documented, so no need for Lady Pembroke to add to them. Not to say she would not have supported them in her campaign to promote her brother, but her hand would not be up to composing an original of that caliber. Really not sure why she would publish anything under a nom-de-plume, seeing as she published plenty under her own name. More than anything, that seems to me to be the big tell. Otherwise, a lot of good stuff here and Lady Pembroke was plenty influential without having to work under an assumed name.

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Mark Bradbeer's avatar

Thank you David, for your interesting and informative essay. But I take issue with Mary being Harvey's gentlewoman. Here are three points.

1/ "No other suitable candidate has ever been proposed." In my book, 'Aemilia Lanyer as Shakespeare's Co-Author' (Routledge, 2022), I presented evidence for Lanyer being this gentlewoman.

2/ Harvey "describes her in terms that can only refer to the Countess of Pembroke". But Harvey said that "she was neither the noblest, nor the fairest, nor the finest, nor the richest lady, but the gentlest, the wittiest and bravest and invinciblest gentlewoman that I know". Mary Sidney was very fair, noble and rich, compared to commoner, Aemilia Lanyer.

3/ Nashe's "Have With You To Safftron Walden" levels misogynistic abuse at Harvey's gentlewoman. If she were Mary Sidney, Nashe would have been pilloried, if not hung, drawn and quartered.

ANOTHER MATTER You mentioned Marprelate's threatened 'Reckoning". This was commonly associated with reference to Zechariah 11:17. Consider this perhaps being Marlowe's 'Reckoning" with a knife in the right eye. And in addition to the 3 sonnets by Harvey's gentlewoman, she may have written the sonnet, "An Apostrophe to the Health of his Abused Friends" as Marlowe's eulogy. Kind regards, Mark Bradbeer

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