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Based on some of your previous answers, not to mention the above, I still do not see why Jonson should have any motivation to use the dedication of the Folio to tip off anyone about the true identity of “Shakespeare”. While you do not say this in your essays here, you have asserted in your answers to my questions that you believe everyone from King James to Richard Burbage already knew that Lady Pembroke was the person in question. If King James knew, then Anne of Denmark and Robert Cecil knew and if they knew then there is every reason to believe that Lady Walsingham and Catherine Howard knew. If Richard Burbage knew, then the Lord Chamberlain knew and if all the authors you listed knew, then really, who didn’t know is a more serious question. It’s not as if it’s a state secret, after all. So, what then would be the point of Jonson spilling the beans in very tortured verse to only those people who frankly could care less?

Unless this was something that Jonson had done before and kept doing despite getting into trouble over it again and again.

Jonson certainly asserts that the portrait and the man are not the same person. And he does drop a few hints, not particularly difficult to follow, about who he knows to be the original. For me, the Ovid references are what tell the tale. As he has already got himself into trouble multiple times for this, starting with Isle of Dogs, then with Every Man in his Humor, followed by Every Man out of his Humor, Poetaster (many thanks for that, b/t/w), and Eastward Ho!, he doesn’t need to get too deep into the allusion for everyone, who already knows to get the hint. You say you can’t connect Marlowe to any of this, I’m having a lot of trouble, obviously, understanding why the connection isn’t at least plausible for you. The specific use of the lines from Amores Book I, # 15, actually translated by Marlowe, who then translated the full Amores and wrote Hero and Leander as an extension of that, is more than enough to make this a reasonable conclusion. Arguable, perhaps but certainly bolstered by the fact that Marlowe can be shown to have been alive at least as late as 1598 when an argument over Hero and Leander erupted in print. Yes, there is a fair amount of overlap between Lady Pembroke and her interest in Ovid with Marlowe’s interest, but who actually has his real name on several poems translated from Ovid or based directly on Ovid originals?

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